William Godwin's Diary

Payne, John Howard

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This person is mentioned in the diary a total of 74 times, but was not at home (N) 4 times, and was a venue (V) 12 times.

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1817

11  June  1817 26  June  1817 28  June  1817 4  July  1817 4  July  1817 5  July  1817 (V) 12  July  1817 23  July  1817 (N) 24  July  1817 (V) 26  July  1817 27  July  1817 29  July  1817 30  July  1817 2  August  1817 19  August  1817 (V) 11  September  1817 (V)

1818

2  June  1818 18  July  1818 1  October  1818 3  December  1818

1821

5  March  1821

1824

14  March  1824

1825

9  May  1825 25  May  1825 (V) 29  May  1825 30  May  1825 12  June  1825 19  June  1825 23  June  1825 30  June  1825 (V) 8  July  1825 11  July  1825 17  July  1825

1826

30  July  1826 27  December  1826 (V)

1827

19  July  1827 13  November  1827 (V) 20  December  1827

1828

6  January  1828 16  January  1828 23  January  1828 20  February  1828 27  February  1828 3  April  1828 9  April  1828 10  October  1828 22  November  1828

1829

9  May  1829 10  May  1829 31  July  1829 10  November  1829 11  November  1829

1830

4  July  1830 13  July  1830 (NV) 13  September  1830 12  November  1830

1831

2  March  1831 16  April  1831 16  August  1831 5  September  1831

1832

12  February  1832 (NV) 14  February  1832 16  February  1832 22  February  1832 8  March  1832 17  March  1832 (NV) 14  June  1832 15  June  1832 (V) 10  July  1832 11  October  1832 12  October  1832 11  November  1832 26  December  1832

1834

15  February  1834

  • Name: Payne, John Howard
  • Gender: Male
  • Birth Date: 9  June  1791
  • Death Date: 10  April  1852
  • Occupation: actor
  • Occupation: playwright

There are some entries in the 1790s to 'young Paynes' and to T and Ja Payne, but these finish in 1798. John Howard Payne, whose info has been entered in the fields above, came to England in 1813 (Encyclopedia Brittanica). There is an early adv. entry for Paynes on 9 November 1815, but since Payne never married (although he was in love for a time with Mary Shelley), this cannot refer to him. And the entry in 1816 to Payne, Bookseller, also does not refer to him.The bookseller may be James Payne, trading between 1802 and 1819 at 87 the Strand, the son of Thomas Payne, bookseller of Mews Gate. Moreover, this may be the Ja Payne (and the T and Ja Payne of the 1790s).

From 1817, references to Payne appear frequently, first encountered at Ogilvie's (American connection) and it is possible from this point to take 'Payne' to refer to John Howard Payne. However, the initial entries in 1817 are to Payne and H.Payne is used only from the middle of 1817, so earlier entries could refer to the bookseller. However, this would imply a sudden increase in contacts with the bookseller Payne at more or less the same time and in the same circles as Godwin becomes acquainted with J H Payne, and that seems too striking a coincidence. The presence of Payne entries after J H Payne returns to America in 1832 relates to another Payne (probably John and Sarah Payne, but contacts are not extensive. We have, accordingly, coded instances of Payne after the beginning of 1817 as references to J H Payne where the context seems appropriate. This means that the first meeting with a Payne in 1817 is Godwin's first contact with JH Payne - 'sup at Ogilvie’s , w. Verplank NS Bevan; adv. Payne' - whereas the first use of 'H Payne' is a '... calls n', is not taken to be the first mention of JH Payne in the diary. The consistency in 1817 between the circles of H Payne and plain 'Payne' weighs heavily in treating the entries as referring to a single person.

The entries in 1818 to Payne junr, on the steamboat to visit Mary Jane, remain unidentified. It is possible that he is the son of a colleague of Godwin's, perhaps someone on the book trade. This might be James Payne. However, the British Book Trades Index has James Payne ceasing activity (possibly dying) in 1819, and there is an entry to Payne bookseller in 1822. An alternative bookseller is Thomas Payne, trading from 1813-1850 with Henry Foss (however, there are no Foss entries in the diary)

The John Payne entry (1824-04-04) seems to be a reference to Lamb's cousin John Payne who married Sarah Burney, the daughter of rear Admiral Burney, in April 1821. This may also account for the entries for Mr and Mrs Payne and for subsequent entries in the diary to Payne(s). They have been given their own code.

Mary Shelley probably became acquainted with J H Payne in 1824, using his free theatre tickets. 'Unbeknownst to Mary he had been struck by her years before they met, when he glimpsed her at the theatre in the Marlow period, and more recently feared falling in love with her, since he knew her to be far above him' (Emily W. Sunstein, Mary Shelley: Romance and Reality, p. 266).

J H Payne returns to the States in 1832. He served as an intermediary for Godwin with American publishers for Deloraine, albeit unsuccessfully (see Payne's letter 30 November 1833) Rosa Pendelton Chiles's John Howard Payne, has insufficient detail to settle the identification of the entries in 1817.

  • MS. Abinger c. 14, fols. 21-2: 30 Nov. 1833
  • Encyclopedia Brittanica
  • DNB
  • Emily W. Sunstein, Mary Shelley: Romance and Reality (1989, paperback edn. Baltimore, Maryland: John Hopkins University Press, 1991);
  • Rosa Pendelton ChilesJohn Howard Payne

This table lists the people this person is most frequently noted with in the diary.

Name Number of Meetings
Shelley, Mary Wollstonecraft (née Godwin) 8
Godwin, William 6
Lamb, Charles 3
Lamb, Mary Anne 3
Talfourd, Sir Thomas Noon (Talford) 2
Wood, Mrs Somerville 2
Hazlitt, Sarah (née Stoddart) 2
Ogilvie, James (Ogilvy) 2
Poole, John 2
Wallace, 2
Atherstone, Edwin 1
Cooper, Thomas (Abthorpe) 1
Marshall, James 1
Kenney, James 1
Holcroft, Louisa (née Mercier) 1
Newton, John Frank 1
Campbell, Thomas 1
Stanhope, Leicester Fitzgerald Charles (fifth earl of Harrington) 1
Holcroft, Fanny Margaretta 1
Aldis, Charles 1
Barham, Richard Harris 1
Este, Reverend Charles 1
O'Bryen, Dennis (O'Brien) 1
Taylor, John 1
Owen, Robert 1
Mulready, William 1
Harlow, George Henry (Harlowe) 1
Taylor, John 1
Taylor, Susannah (née Cook) 1
Taylor, Richard 1
Rosser, Henry (Blanche) 1
Williams, Jane (Mrs Hogg) 1
Godwin, Mary Jane (Clairmont) (née de Vial) 1
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